Pastor Paul Dyal's deleted blogs....or so he thought.
Posted on June 12, 2009 at 07:51:42 PM by Jennifer Beita
PAUL B. DYAL
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 10, 2009
COURAGE AND HUMILITY
It doesn't always require courage to do the noble and right thing. For a lifeguard who is an excellent and professional swimmer to pull someone who is drowning out of the water requires no courage, but for someone who isn't that good of a swimmer and not trained as a lifeguard to do so requires courage. To do something that you are not afraid to do requires no courage but to override your fears to do what is noble and right requires courage. To take foolish and unnecessary risks at the peril of yours and others lives is not brave, it is foolish and unnecessary. I recall as a young man how my school mates would want to play a foolish game called "chicken". They would take their cars out to a deserted road and then get about a half a mile apart and race head on toward one another. The one who turned away first avoiding a head on collision was a chicken. No, he wasn't a chicken he was simply the lesser fool.
Anything false is foolish whether it be humility or bravery. Both humility and bravery are things noble and greatly to be admired, but never feigned. We as Christians can and must exemplify these qualities if we are to be soldiers in the army of the Lord. As the old song goes we must fight and be brave against all evil, never run nor even lag behind. To do so is not always popular and will not always bring you earthly praise and reward but is something that you must always do if you are one day hear the Lord say, "Well done my good and faithful servant. Only when it is fearful to stand against evil is it courageous, and true courage is an act of humility.
One other thing the church advertisment I posted the other day, (look below) is disgusting isn't it. Well the people who published it and use it to draw a crowd don't think so. I posted it in order to show just how far dropping your standards can bring you. Lets hold the highest standard in all things including dress that we can.
POSTED BY PAUL B. DYAL AT 4:55 AM
2 COMMENTS:
Jennifer said...
STANDARDS
I don't have a question but I have a statement. We lived our entire lives under these standards. We were taught our entire life at CGT that we were to stand out. We were taught that we shouldn't want to fit in with the world. We were taught that we were meant to be different and that was because "WE WERE THE BODY OF CHRIST"
We were told that we were the only ones that were going to heaven. We were told ALL other groups were of Babalon. Now all of a sudden 4 lawsuits are filed and the community is looking at you and you all want to fit in. I don't believe for one moment that anyone at CGT thinks this sudden change has happened because Steve felt God spoke to him.
This happened for one reason and one reason only. LAWSUITS!!!!!!
You can't have it both ways. So either what we were raised to believe is a crock or you guys have become part of babalon with the rest of us who have left CGT, so welcome. I don't agree with what is taught in the GAC group but I at least can respect the people who are saying this is what we were founded on and this is what we stand for.
Unlike some people who tell reporters that those standards were never forced on us. I mean at least own it! Don't people get tired of having to make excuses. Just say it!!!
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO JUST BE HONEST????
I guess I ended up having a question after all.
COURAGE
He uses the word courage in the title. Courage for me was being 7 or 8 years old and telling my mom that I was sexually abused by a member of the Church, courage for me is a 13 year old girl coming forward and telling that her grandpa who is also a pastor was raping her, courage for me is an adult coming forward and telling that she too had been raped for years by this minister, courage for me is another woman coming forward to say that the same man abused her. Courage to me is those 4 woman coming together with one thing in common, they were abused and since the ministers weren't going to do anything about it they were.
As a victim of sexual abuse, that was in my opinion covered up by one of the ministers of "The Body of Christ" I would just like to point out how disgusting it is to me that pants vs. dresses is causing such an uproar. So from what I have seen, money and standards causes everyone to take a stand but molest a child and you get your own Church. Does anyone else out there that is still a part of this body of people not see how screwed up this is? I really just don't understand. Pastors are taking Steve to task over standards but not one of them have looked into the allegations from the victims side to see if what they are saying is true.
To me COURAGE would be the ministers of what they consider to be "The Body of Christ" to pick up a phone and call at least one of the victims to find out what really happened. Not just what happened to us as children but what has happened to us after we came forward. But I guess they have bigger issues on their plate right now......woman are wearing pants and that is way more important.
JUNE 11, 2009 5:50 PM
Shari said...
Mr. Dyal,
I sincerely hope you have the courage and integrity to leave Jennifer's comment and answer her. She is not the only one who is asking these questions.
I have been reading your blog for several weeks after stumbling onto it quite by accident just before the Des Moines meeting.
I grew up in CGT and left in 2003. I do not know you well and have no personal animosity toward you. Although I disagree with you on almost everything, I agree with Jennifer that I can at least respect someone for standing by what they believe and proclaiming it boldly, as you do on your blog.
Sincerely,
Shari Howerton
Paul Dyal's second deleted blog....or so he thought.
Posted on June 12, 2009 at 07:56:44 PM by Jennifer Beita
PAUL B. DYAL
THURSDAY, JUNE 11, 2009
AN ANSWER FOR JENNIFER AND SHARI
There is nothing more wicked, uglier, crueler, or more despicable than child abuse of any kind. I know, I was an abused child. Whether the abuse be sexual, physical, mental, or otherwise it is an inexcusable evil that anyone guilty of it should be made to suffer the worst of consequences commensurate with the degree of their crime. Cruel perverts that hurt children are never to be excused. I agree that this is an evil far more serious than any other matter that can be discussed. It is a crime against humanity that so heinous that anyone who does this sort of thing is no less a criminal than a murderer. It is my opinion that anyone guilty of child abuse is unfit for the ministry or even being a member in good standing of society. All child abusers belong in jail, including those who are religious. No man calling himself a minister is fit to be called a minister if he is morally unfit. No one who knowingly excuses or covers up child abuse will escape the judgement of God. All immorality is evil but immorality against a child is worse than evil. This fairly well summarizes my position and disposition concerning those who would abuse children.
Now for my position of the suing of a Church for the evil doings of someone who poses themselves as being a minister of God. It is a sad truth that there are men who represent themselves as representing God, but who are in fact wolves in sheep's clothing. All religious orders have had them, Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, etc. all, and all have suffered shame and sadness because of them. I only wish we could have been the exception. I sincerely apologize that there have been men among us who have abused their authority and the integrity of the name of Christ. It is, and has been my opinion that once discovered any man who is found to be morally unfit to serve in the ministry should and must be exposed and censored from the ministry. In the case of child abuse they should be reported to the civil authorities and punished according to the law. However this is their crime and they alone should pay the consequences of their crime. The Church and the good people who love God and are innocent should not have to bear the shame or consequences for the wrongdoing of anyone other than themselves. To bring ruin on a whole Church because of the sins of a wolf in sheep's clothing seems unjust to me.
On a more personal note I do not know the people who question my not addressing their complaints and am therefore exonerated of reasonable blame. I assure you that if I know as a fact that someone is a child molester they will be reported to the authorities and brought to justice. My question is this , if what is said is true why weren't criminal charges brought against the guilty individual, and why wasn't this ministry advised of the crime?
Now as regarding my message on living a separated, consecrated and holy life. I suggest that before you judge me or my message you know me, and my message. I welcome you to visit the Assembly I pastor and investigate my life. I have nothing to hide, I am not ashamed, afraid, or bashful. I am saddened by, sympathize and empathize with your plight however don't blame us all on what a few are guilty of. I might add don't blame and despise the message because of the failings of the messenger. Christ is not guilty, nor are all of those who follow Him. Some of us have kept ourselves and His message of restoration and overcoming pure. I am praying for your souls.
POSTED BY PAUL B. DYAL AT 6:37 PM
6 COMMENTS:
Shari said...
The senior pastor knew decades ago and kept silent. That's why further abuse occurred. Even the extended family were kept in the dark while the "perp" continued to operate as a minister. The ministry of the church bore responsibility for the additional crimes against children because a known crime was hidden; therefore abuse continued.
There are many reasons why men like this do not get prosecuted.
I am sorry that you experienced abuse as a child. I don't need to visit your church. I don't suspect you of having something to hide. I was raised in "the body" and left at the age of 43. I know what you believe and I respect the fact that you are not trying to conceal what you truly believe.
I stand against the teachings of GAC. I do not believe you preach the true Gospel, but rather, a "hidden" gospel you are convinced you hold the keys to. I believe you are deceived, as I once was. However, I never blamed Jesus for the GAC.
I left the religious bondage of GAC and found the cross. You may have a three legged stool of "teachings, standards and order," but my only element of salvation is Christ crucified. I count everything else as loss. May I boast in nothing but the cross and my risen Savior.
I don't mean this sarcastically and I do not say it in malice. So please don't interpret it that way. But I really would prefer that you not pray for me.
Parents continued doing business with the same men who abused their children, or they would still have them over because they were family and force their child to spend the holidays with their abusers.
We had a convicted child molester in our Church and nobody told us. We just thought he wasn't coming anymore. We didn't know he was in prison. It would have been nice to have been told that when he started coming back to Church. Then later even when his adopted son was being accused of molesting a little girl, we still weren't told. It wasn't until the parents of the little girl hired a P.I. and then that was discovered.
The Church didn't know that Bro. Mears used Church funds to bail out of jail a man who Bro. Mears knew was a child rapist. When the victim confronted Bro. Mears along side her mother he responded, Oh I'm sorry, I had forgotten. That's how much she was valued by Bro. Mears.
Then there was the woman who went to Bro. Mears when she had gotten older and she said she wanted to turn the man in and he told her not to do it. He told her his mother’s health was bad.
There was a man who had molested his sons and Steve Farmer and everyone in the Church new this. This man traveled and he came in to the service and Steve went on and on about him being there and told him how happy we were to see him. And then he asked him to stand up and speak. That is how a child molester is received.
There was another man who was the great grandfather of my son who sat on the platform and he molested girls in the Church. One woman went to Bro. Mears about it but nothing was done. Many girls were molested by him before and after Bro. Mears found out. This man had over 100 names on his confession letter that he gave after he was convicted of molesting his granddaughter.
We did not want to sue, but it was all we could do to make sure that people knew the truth and those children would be protected. Cause there was another girl in 04 that had reported abuse and the way Steve handled it was horrible.
I can count over 35 girls and 3 boys that were abused that I know of. If Steve has done nothing wrong then ask him to provide you with a copy of his transcript of his deposition in Lynette's case. Ask for Becky's as well and Paul's. If he says he can't get them for you then he is lying because they are not a sealed document. Steve couldn't even tell the truth about a simple question about the term elder. Ask him to see that DVD of that July meeting in 2004 that we had on child abuse (make sure you don't get the edited one). You should request to see them and have him include the Sunday morning service from that Sun. before that meeting. Steve Farmer knowingly lied about what was known. I confronted him while we were down front.
All I ever wanted was someone to acknowledge that all this took place and to make sure this would never happen again and instead it was more lies. They could have come to us and told us that they are sorry for what was done to us, acknowledge it for once and how badly it was handled and maybe pay for some therapy for all the victims to help them deal with what has happened.
Just to clear this up, we all wanted to prosecute the men that did this to us, we have reported these men to the authorities in Chino Ca, and White House, TN. before we ever filed anything against CGT. It was close to a year after doing that then we filed against CGT. We have been told there is nothing we can do to get these men who did this behind bars because too much time has passed.
We sued the Church because the lies wouldn't stop coming and we were scared that it was still happening. Not one of you ministers called me or the other woman to see what was really happening, you just took his word and accepted that we were just bitter ex-members. Nobody was interested in what we had to say.
The lies that have been told about me and my family have been life altering. If you look real close they don't deny our abuse, they just don't think the leadership had an obligation to do anything about us being abused or protect us from it happening to begin with.
They wouldn't take a stand against molesting and raping children but when they believe someone has stolen money the have a trial and find them guilty without them being even there and tell everyone they are guilty. Mess with their money and that gets their attention.
So what message does that send to all of the many, many, many victims of that Church? We went after what they care the most about so that we could make sure that not another child would be abused. I believe that children are safer in that Church now because of what we did.
Had any of you contacted us you would have known that all we wanted in the beginning was just for the truth to come out and for parents to know what they were to do if they new someone was abused and how to prevent abuse.
He didn't respond. We have not heard one thing from Steve since the very beginning of this.
So we hit the media and all of a sudden not only had Steve not told the truth but now members of the Church were denying the ways we were raised. They started changing their outward appearance so that they would look normal to the community. They started reaching out to community Churches of all faith. Doctrine is starting to change among them. The perfection teaching is not taught openly.
How can anyone not connect the dots here? We filed our lawsuits right around the same time that the FDL bust happened. CGT wanted to appear as "normal" as possible (at least that is how it came across).
We gave the Church members over a year to take a stand and see the truth. We waited for them to demand the truth and when that didn't happen we had to seek justice in the only way we had left. If you knew what it has been like to go through this then you would know that the only reason we would put ourselves through it is because we are telling the truth.
But remember, none of you bothered to ask us, but a woman put on some pants and there is mass panic in the GAC world. Can you not see how that feels as a victim? I mattered less to your group then a Church who has changed some of their standards. To me I would think it should matter more to your group if what we are saying is in fact true. But since nobody has called I guess I have that’s our answer.
Thank you for your prayers, I appreciate them. But do me a favor, when you pray for me don’t pray that God helps that poor girl who has lost her way from the flock. Please just pray that the TRUTH comes out and that God’s Will Be Done and that many people can find HEALING and PEACE.
I meant to tell you this but I got side tracked. I want to thank you for actually responding to what I said. You are the only minster that has even bothered to acknowledge me and that did not go unnoticed.
Re(1): Paul Dyal's second deleted blog....or so he thought.
Posted on June 12, 2009 at 08:16:49 PM by Jason
It's funny, I almost never use the post boxes on these sites as I find them a little confining. I usually use some form of word processor when composing a post, especially when I think what I am writing is important (at least to me). It's just easier to proof not only a couple of sentences but also the tenor of the entire text. I usually close Word down once I hit the submit button but for some reason forgot to this time. Below is a precise copy of what I posted to his blog.
Pastor Paul Dyal sets the record straight!
Posted on June 12, 2009 at 09:02:19 PM by Jennifer Beita
Friday, June 12, 2009
I SHOULD NOT, I CANNOT, AND I WILL NOT
In January when I started doing this blog I had no idea that it would ever grow into such a large thing. Although only fifty four people have signed on as followers thus acknowledging their readership of my thoughts and opinions my counter allows me to know there are hundreds more who read it daily. Because of this I feel an obligation to continue producing it as long as this kind of interest is maintained. The initial reason for my having a blog was that my publisher recommended I do so for advertising and exposure purposes. Quite frankly previous to that I didn't even know what a blog was. I am not on some kind of ego trip or campaign and really don't care to be to be a public figure, but I do find it a very handy medium for spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ. I have a zeal to see the gospel of Christ and His Church spread throughout the world and I will do anything reasonably possible to facilitate the accomplishing of this goal.
Of recent I have been receiving messages in the comment section of my blogs that are either contentious or accusative. I should not, I cannot, and I will not allow this effort of trying to spread the teachings of Christ and His purposes to become a scandal sheet enabling bitter and angry persons to vent themselves on the innocent. Nor will I allow it to become a tit for tat argument forum. With this blog I am again putting on notice any and all readers who wish to use this blog space for anything other than the designed purpose that I will not respond to your bait and am going to strive to maintain the high purpose of the effort. I know there are those who disagree with my teachings and I respect your prerogative of disagreeing. I however do not wish to, and will not enter into a contentious debate or argument with you. I will preach and teach the things that are according to what I believe God has shown and inspired me.
As regarding those who oppose this gospel and this people because some individual connected to this movement violated you, I now address you for a final time. I say final with the understanding that it is final in the context of the subject of your dialogue, (diatribe). It is unfair that you would accuse this whole body of people for your violation. It is unreasonable that you blame this ministry in general and myself in particular for not addressing something we knew nothing of. You were hurt, and for that I am in sympathy and grieve with and for you. You are angry and bitter and for that I can only say consider your ways. Blame those who are to blame, pray for them and turn their judgement over to God. Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord. I advise you to cease trying to hurt others because you were hurt. The Bible teaches us to render not evil for evil, it would be wise for us all to follow the teachings and admonitions of the Bible.
Posted by Paul B. Dyal at 5:18 AM
1 comments:
Jennifer said...
And now I say back to you, I will pray for your soul.
My very last post ever on Paul Dyals blog
Posted on June 12, 2009 at 10:33:08 PM by Jennifer Beita
Also, I just will say one last thing and then I will never post here again. I gave you too much credit when you responded to me and Shari. I thought that maybe you did care. By your words to me you clearly do not. Would Christ dismiss me and the other victims as you just did? I think not! You are right you didn't know what had happened and so you couldn't have come to me or the others, but once you all found out about our lawsuits you were then made aware of our abuse and yet not one of you came to us. That is what you are all guilty of. Not one of you "Men of God" ever even looked into it. But I guess after Jason Evans msg to you we all know why you didn't. I wonder if that is the same reason all the other ministers didn't come to us either. How many people just like me sit in every one of your "Body of Christ's congregations?
Maybe you all as a body can address this issue of abuse once you have the dress code understood. I understand how much more important that is. Is there a lesser penalty if the molester is wearing the proper clothing when they abuse? I realize that you will not leave this on your board. But I wanted you to know that I take back the credit I gave you earlier. You are cut from the same cloth as Steve Farmer. And yes what you hear in my words are pure anger. But I am not the only one who is angry with how you all have handled abuse. God is not pleased.